Specific format for chipset names in device infoboxes

Chipset names on the wiki are a bit of a mess (and now that chipset names in device infoboxes became links, it's really showing):

• Most device pages follow the Manufacturer MODEL General Name format (for example Qualcomm MSM8196 Snapdragon 410). Chipset page names use a Manufacturer General Name (MODEL) format.
• Some device pages, however, put the general name before the model.
• Exynos chips are all over the place; one chip can be referred to as the Exynos 4412, Exynos 4412 Quad, Samsung Exynos 4412, Samsung Exynos 4412 Quad...
• Some pages mention exact chipset revisions, most - don't.

We need a clear set of rules for chipset names on device pages. My two cents in terms of considerations:

• Most developers use the short model names instead of the full-length names (so MSM8916 instead of Snapdragon 410, etc.).
• It might be nice to have the chipset names on the device pages match the format used in chipset page names to avoid having to make redirects for every chipset. This reduces general wiki maintainership effort.
  • There are chips that have multiple trade names, or single pages for multiple chips, but that's not the great majority of them.
• Wikipedia lists Exynos chips with the "Samsung" prefix (see Galaxy SIII). News outlets and media often drop the "Samsung" prefix. Samsung's own page drops the prefix (at least for the Exynos 850). GSMArena drops the prefix.

I slightly prefer the chipset page format over the one used in device pages, but I'm curious to hear what others think about this.

Feel free to discuss this in the comments.

(The List of chipsets and devices that use them might be a good reference point for some of the inconsistencies I've mentioned.)

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By knuxify on 2022-07-08T18:24:23

@knuxify your post moved me to cleanup the TI OMAP pages a bit. At least for them, we really only need two pages maximum (omap3 and omap4). With these SoCs, we could even reduce it to just one big OMAP page, since they are handled practically the same way by the kernel :-)

Nice initiative!

By Sicelo on 2022-07-12T14:50:32

I'd be fine with either way, but also want to have it consistent. But I guess writing "Qualcomm Snapdragon 750G (SM7225)" looks nicer than "Qualcomm SM7225 Snapdragon 750G", given we also have the "Device Name (device-codename)" format for device pages, maybe that's better?

By Luca Weiss on 2022-07-27T12:57:05

I guess writing "Qualcomm Snapdragon 750G (SM7225)" looks nicer than "Qualcomm SM7225 Snapdragon 750G", given we also have the "Device Name (device-codename)" format for device pages, maybe that's better?

That may look nicer for Snapdragon, but not so nice for the other chipsets (exynos, omap, allwinner, etc.) that don't have a codename in addition to a name. Even the device naming doesn't look nice on non-Android devices for the same reason (ends up being 'Device Name (device-name', e.g. pinephone).

That said, I'm not saying it wouldn't be right

By Sicelo on 2022-07-27T20:52:31

I've had some time to think, and - in my opinion, the format should be [Company] [Common name] ([Model]), and for devices without a common name, [Company] [Model]. For example, Qualcomm Snapdragon 410 (MSM8916), Broadcom BCM23550 or Samsung Exynos 4412.

As for the Exynos case - I think it makes sense to include the "Samsung" before it, to make it fit with the format of the other chipset names. Most places that talk about specific chipsets also include the prefix - given that the title will be the same for the individual chips' wiki pages.

By knuxify on 2022-08-01T20:02:49

@knuxify That looks good in my opinion!

By Luca Weiss on 2022-08-01T19:39:23

Final verdict - I wrote down the new rules in https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/User:Knuxfanwin8/Draft:Chipset_naming_policy. These are pretty much the same as the ones I posted 2 months ago, but with the addition of the "optional suffix" used by some manufacturers (for example, Samsung Exynos 4412 **Quad**.)

If nobody opposes this, I'll add these to the Help:Device Page article and rename existing pages.

By knuxify on 2022-10-29T12:23:11

That also means most device pages need to be updated, right? E.g. "Qualcomm MSM8916 Snapdragon 410" and lots of other chips have this format on the device page.

By Luca Weiss on 2022-10-30T09:45:27

Yes, they need to be updated. https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/User:Knuxfanwin8/List_of_chipsets_and_devices_that_use_them could be useful since it has a general list of devices with their chipsets, which helps more quickly identify which pages need to be edited.

By knuxify on 2022-10-30T09:45:37

Since nobody made any objections, I added the rules to the help page, and have finished adapting all of the chipset pages and device pages to the new rules. (Sincere apologies to anyone who is browsing "Recent changes"...)

By knuxify on 2022-11-17T13:26:15

(technically i posted this a bit too early... still a few small changes queued up as of writing, but will be done in a few minutes :p)

By knuxify on 2022-11-17T13:26:15

closed

Uploading the scripts I used for future reference:

bulk.py bulk-mt.py

Note that these require some preparatory work before you can run them; you need to download pywikibot with all of its scripts (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot/Installation - see the .zip and .tar.gz links; just getting it from pip won't do!), place these files in the root of the directory, follow the guide at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikibot/Third-party_Wiki_Quick_Start to add the pmOS wiki to the available wiki list, run any of the scripts to trigger the login setup guide. I also had to patch it to allow the "question" captcha type or it would stop working after a few edits.

By knuxify on 2022-11-17T13:32:24